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09 October 2011 @ 12:03 pm
Reporting bad user: jessioriginal  
I'm posting a warning about a user who I don't think is on garagesalejapan, but is known to be a problem buyer elsewhere. I just want to warn anyone who ends up running into her. This is in regards to my shopping/proxy-buyer service. Apparently she has done this several times before so I think a proper warning is in effect.

jessioriginal is the user. Alternate username is syberiawinx.

She lied about when she sent out payment and then claimed I had received the money before the postmark date on the payment.
She ignored the messages I sent keeping her updated and the policies I told her I had regarding the kind of payment she sent.
She made wild accusations about the situation before her payment had even arrived and persisted in making them during the hold period.
She continuously changes her story and contradicts herself in her attempts to threaten some kind of legal action and is belligerent and continues to be defensive.
She lies about the messages and comments I sent her previously and claims she had no idea, even with proof on a public community which she responded to.
She also asked for me to purchase adult content items but refuses to show proof of age after displaying immature behavior and claims her adulthood is readily apparent and claims she will use that as evidence in court.

I have offered her a refund because I do not want to deal with her anymore and am sending it. She is refusing the refund and demands the items she asked me to purchase as well as the cost of the items plus some and is claiming I am stealing the items from her. Of her own admission, she has done this before and has managed to get 3x the money back from someone else previously along with whatever she asked them to buy her. Other users have mentioned that she has been a problem as well and that they have refused their services to her.

I'll be posting on reportthem as well.

Please be extremely aware of this user. None of the other people who had issues with her before said anything until after the situation became bad. She seems to do the same thing on other forums. I don't want anyone else to risk tangling with her.

EDIT :: This is the mod-post on another comm regarding a post where  started getting defensive and erasing comments people made about the situation.

 I also now have all the PMs and emails on screencap. Thanks for the advice.
Bess & her hinky--dinkssylvir on October 9th, 2011 11:31 pm (UTC)
Woah, thanks for the heads up. I'm curious though, how did she manage to get 3x the money back from someone?
rubicons_closetrubicons_closet on October 9th, 2011 11:52 pm (UTC)
I have no idea, but she said she did it. She probably scared/harassed them into doing it.
She said she's going to take us to tv court which is a little weird and that she's going to tell every person I ever try to do business with that I'm a scammer.

So on that note, super watch out for her since she's a repeat offender so to speak.
It's Time To Runmetamorcy1 on October 10th, 2011 12:57 am (UTC)
She can't take you to court. I doubt she's even aware that in U.S. doujinshi are considered illegial material because of copyright issues. If she really wants to take you supposedly to court, she'll end up loosing her items regardless and getting a huge fine. Though that could be said the same for you as well if it was brought up.
rubicons_closetrubicons_closet on October 10th, 2011 09:38 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing even though usually people don't enforce the doujinshi thing unless it's a case of pedo-porn books. Also I'm pretty sure she's not of age because her behavior is really not mature at all.

Is there a way to contact the Livejournal staff though? She said she's going to start harassing people on my f-list and anyone who ever tries to contact me. :/
It's Time To Run: Breakmetamorcy1 on October 10th, 2011 10:09 pm (UTC)
Though they are considered R18 so there's no telling. You could threaten her back. But she won't take you to court. It's the type that would be thrown out the door immediately. As long as the money is returned, she can't do anything. You're already done your pact. I'm more familiar with the law since I had taken a few required classes. In the cases or online shopping or even normal shopping in malls, as long as the money is returned or the items are replaced, that's the line. Nothing more, nothing less. And if she really is below 18, that's even more to use against her.

That's terrible. Hmm... I don't know if that would really help reporting since she can easily make a new account and come back. Just tell all your friends to ban her from their pages and from PMing them.
rubicons_closetrubicons_closet on October 10th, 2011 10:20 pm (UTC)
I am putting so much tracking/certification on her refund it's ridiculous. I can't believe she's making a federal case out of doujinshi. She probably would have found a way to harass someone who bought them before she could anyway. :/

The people on my f-list are mostly people who've used my shopping service in the past. Now I'll have to go around warning people. This situation is spiraling out of control.
rubicons_closetrubicons_closet on October 12th, 2011 02:16 am (UTC)
Hello again.

I just wanted to apologize for the rudeness jessioriginal displayed towards you. I did mention at the very beginning that she get certification on her payment for the future, but she ignored it and decided it was a point to argue. It really seems like she doesn't know how mailing stuff works or she just doesn't care.

In any case, now that you've seen the ugliness for yourself, I hope you will be able to avoid running into a similar situation yourself.

Thank you for your input and for trying to help.
It's Time To Runmetamorcy1 on October 13th, 2011 01:23 pm (UTC)
Its fine. But this is getting quite out of hand. I don't think she'll actually take you to court. She's just bluffing but I don't doubt her threat in harassing other people. Maybe you can see if she is actually doing it by getting someone to make a comment.

By the way, if they did make it a case, you're in Hawaii, unless they plan on making the trip there and paying for all the expenses, its really impossible for them to get to you
rubicons_closetrubicons_closet on October 13th, 2011 02:35 pm (UTC)
She continued to harass at least one person by PM and then by AIM until the person blocked her completely, but that person saved everything. If she continues on, I'll have to get everything together and see how to submit a cyber-harassment complaint. She did end up getting banned from that community for harassing everyone though.

I have no idea how those court show things work, but I'm really hoping she's bluffing. She keeps saying she's going to send them our information so I have a feeling she's just in a panic.
It's Time To Runmetamorcy1 on October 13th, 2011 02:51 pm (UTC)
I see. But yeah, cyber-harrassment is a crime. You can get in trouble with that. You could probably send HER to court for that crime and you have proof with the Pms and everything else.

Hello, I love you, won't you tell me your name?fynoda on October 10th, 2011 06:56 am (UTC)
Sorry to but in here - I live in Los Angeles; I filed paperwork to tak esomeone to small claims court, and was immediately contacted by Judge Judy's staff about being on their show. Since small claims are public records, they have easy access to this stuff. I turned them down, by the way, but I'm just letting know you it's possible.

This person sounds like a typical blackmail artist. There are other versions of this scam. There was an individual on Reddit who met a man in a chat room; eventually their relationship increased to the point that they exchanged nude pictures of each-other. The scammer found the girl's Facebook and threatened to post the nude pictures unless she gave money. He lied about his age, and claimed he'd report her for soliciting a minor. She called his buff and called the cops - and he vanished. These people are cowards. Keep calm and carry on.
rubicons_closetrubicons_closet on October 10th, 2011 09:44 pm (UTC)
My friend said a court tv show is normally run by an off-duty judge acting as a mediator? Sorry, I don't watch those so I don't know how those go. I don't know what the person submitted though but she contradicts herself and changes her story in every message/email/comment so I'm sure that will already make her seem suspicious. I just don't want to have to fly anywhere.

That Reddit guy's crazy though. How can you even think of such a crazy convoluted plan like that? I must not be creative/vicious enough because I would have never thought to do something like that. :/
I need to be more aware of things like this. Thanks for that heads-up.
jelenityjelenity on October 10th, 2011 04:17 pm (UTC)
Always Keep screencaps of the conversations via e-mail. YOu can post a link just for the convo of you two back and forth. That is proof to any community IMHO

rubicons_closetrubicons_closet on October 10th, 2011 09:35 pm (UTC)
I have the messages and emails saved up and the mod of the comm where the original situation happened saved screencaps of a post where jessioriginal started getting scolded for her behavior and started deleting the commenters that scolded her as well as the ones where other people said she tried the same thing with them.

I'm just on borrowed computers these days so I can't download a screencap program so I can't screencap any of my own messages and stuff. I have to find one that will work just online or something, I never thought it would get this bad.

But thanks that's a really great idea. I think the mod of the other comm is trying to keep clear of the situation at this point so she doesn't want to ban the other user, even for being a repeat offender. Hopefully screencaps will help her to decide.